The Hardest Boss

We can debate forever, Firegiant was the first but soon we figured out his weakness... Melania was another problem and her dance killed us many times and soon we all made the parry move. On the Elden Ring main game we stop leveling at level 150, we had a save from level 475. With Placidusax we had a hard time and with the new spell Light of Miquela we were able to defeat him.

Consort we also were able to figure him out. With a big shield and the Antspur Rapier to poke him. When we reached the place in the beggining it was hard.  Tree Avatar is also a hard boss his weakness is fire.

We have to measure and we have made a decision! We have two hard bosses! Placiduxax we defeated him six times alone and Bayle also six times. We helped once in a a fight against Bayle and defetead him.

We asked Gemini «In Elden Ring, especially with the release of the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC, there's a good amount of discussion about which dragon boss is tougher between Dragonlord Placidusax and Bayle the Dread.

The general consensus from players seems to lean towards Bayle the Dread being the harder of the two.

Here's why:

• Aggression and Unpredictability: Bayle is often described as being relentlessly aggressive, with fast movements and combos that can be difficult to read. He has "get off me" attacks that make staying under him less of a simple solution compared to some other large dragons.

• Camera Issues: Due to Bayle's size and quick movements, especially when he closes gaps, the camera can become erratic, making it difficult to track his attacks and dodge effectively, particularly for melee users who try to lock on to his head.

• Complex Attack Patterns: Bayle has more complex combos and moves that are both dangerous and difficult to dodge, including attacks that punish you for staying too long in certain positions (like directly underneath him). His second phase, with added lightning effects, can be visually busy and harder to parse.

• Damage Output: Players often report Bayle dealing significantly more damage, even at high vigor and with good resistances, making his one-shots more common.

• Lore Context (and implied difficulty): Bayle's lore states that he fought Placidusax to a stalemate, with both being severely wounded. This suggests a comparable power level, but in terms of gameplay, Bayle seems to push players more.

Placidusax, while a formidable boss with impressive spectacle and lore, is often considered more manageable once his attack patterns are learned. His teleportation and laser attacks can be intimidating, but many players find consistent strategies for dodging them (like rolling into his lasers or hugging his back legs).»